Sigh. Lol.
Mos.Def wrote:
Stuff like this...
“I don’t lose arguments”
“I am impervious to any and all attacks”
“quite short of my calibre of talent who writes among the deepest, most piercing, compelling prose”
‘He doesn’t exhibit the finesse I do”.
Such a tiny sample of the shit you’ve spouted and bestowed upon yourself in all the years I’ve been on WinMX.
When you put something in quotes, you should be directly quoting the other person, not summarizing what you feel they are saying. To do anything but, is not just foolish, but intellectually disingenuous. I do claim to not lose arguments, with the addendum you failed to include, which is that I don't argue any subject to which I'm not fully apprised. I do say that I'm impervious to any and all attacks, because I am. I just don't give a fuck what others think of me. My opinion of myself is an educated, comparative opinion. Your opinion of me depends on the mood your in that day. That third quote I've never made, directly or indirectly, and speaks more to your opinion of my writing, than my own. : ) The fourth quote is the only direct quote, from an earlier post here, and it still stands. Don't attempt such tomfoolery in misquoting people when you write your big PhD, ok fella?
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No mere aspiration for eminence, however ardent will ever do the business though. You’ve always lacked a style of chaste, mate.
Lacked a style of chaste? Lmao. Scroll through your own posts on this forum to clearly see a lack of chaste in style. I, on the other hand, can and have written both with and without obscenity, and numerous posts of each kind can be found on this forum, and other places where my writing is exhibited. So then, you are either unobservant, or again, disingenuous - you choose.
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The laborious study, attentive observation of the world and cultivating assiduously the habits of reading, thinking and observing. These don’t make you unique nor are they unfamiliar to me. My own research interests are abnormally profuse. I’ve always strived to have the knowledge to adapt myself with intuitive quickness and ease for every situation which I may chance be placed.
The first "sentence" here isn't even a sentence:
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The laborious study, attentive observation of the world and cultivating assiduously the habits of reading, thinking and observing.
It has no predicate. You actually do this quite often, though I've got better things to do than go around mopping up your bad grammar on this forum. Comma Splices too, you suffer from, incidentally. So perhaps you should "strive to have the knowledge to adapt" yourself "with intuitive quickness and ease" for situations that require a modicum of proper grammar.
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There are multiple motives at work for attacking you. Using the smallest of forms would = boredom, humour, testing and useless curiosity.
None of these motives are near the truth, for the reasons you specifically attack me, repeatedly. Those reasons might account for why you may attack random people, but not why you focus so much effort on me. Ah, but I know why. And so does most anyone following this forum for years.
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I can quite easily enfeeble you if I like.
Lol. How so? By pointing out typos? Lmao. OMG, I'm so weakened now.
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Your arrogance procures double dangers.
Apply that to yourself, to divest yourself of hypocrisy.
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Your delay in responding to this is more a case of relieving yourself from the fatigue and embarrassment of running.
There is no fatigue in doing nothing. And I rarely get embarrassed by anything - certainly not from a pretentious, trenchant windbag such as you. Notice too, how I respond to every little thing someone says. You quote large tracts of my posts, respond to very little, if any of the specific claims, thereby side-stepping having to actually face up to what I've said. It's a common tactic employed by those who hide; perhaps fatigued and embarrassed? Lol. Some people feel that if they type voluminously, while avoiding the actual points raised, that it won't be noticed that they are avoiding them. I'll be sure to point out your avoidances, since I'm much more thorough than are you. My delay in responding was exactly what I said it was, and nothing more. I do have better things to do than school you in English.
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I manufactured it that way and you got sucked in.
You manufactured it
what way? Sucked into what? Sucked into responding after a couple months? Lol. Make some sense. First you claim I was running and hiding from your pathetic invective, and now you claim I got "sucked in". Which is it? I can't both be sucked into responding, and running and hiding. Smh.
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You are impervious to even the simplest form of attacks.
Agreed. I sure am. *"...any and all attacks." Thank-you for noticing.
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Men are often shown to be what they really are; great or diminutive, equal or unequal to the occasion that calls them out. One only needs to contradistinguish hard facts against your own self aggrandising and Barrett’s shameful and unmanly limerence to shown that at their base they are unprecedented delusions.
".. to shown.." ? Are you inserting a past tense incorrectly here? Surely you wouldn't make such a glaring faux-pas as this, considering how you subject your writing to so many learned peers for review? Ha. Where's your "hard facts"? All I've seen out of you is emotionally charged editorializing.
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When did this become universally applicable? It’s a fucking reckless statement. You are yourself (even though I didn’t assume anything) essentially assuming that age alone is the precursor for greater knowledge.
Wrong. I did not ever once say that "age alone is the precursor for greater knowledge". I merely said that you aren't accounting for it, and it is a major factor, though certainly not the only precursor for greater knowledge.
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Things aren’t that simple. You get back what you put in. Nature may have manifested a partiality toward someone whereas for others intelligence is predominantly a result of grinding up thy loins and going to work with all the indomitable energy of Hannibal sealing the Alps.
We weren't discussing intelligence. We were discussing
knowledge. They aren't even close to the same thing, Mos. I'm not surprised you lack the meticulousness to see when you make such blatant failures of logic, though. It's rampant. We were discussing knowledge and whether or not age is a factor in accruing knowledge. And it is, as I've said. Your attempt to misconstrue is noted. And, since you brought up intelligence, now, I must take issue with your conclusions on how it can be attained, and your lame analogy to Hannibal.
Intelligence can not be gained by "going to work" at anything. Intelligence is static. This is why IQs are shown to be static throughout life, regardless of one's age. You are confusing intelligence with knowledge. They are far from the same thing. One can be intelligent, but lack knowledge ( a clever child ). One can be knowledgeable but lack intelligence ( these types abound ). And your analogy likening gaining intelligence to Hannibal "sealing the Alps" is flawed and inapplicable. You cannot gain intelligence through effort. Too bad too, because you would be much more intelligent now, after such capacious circumlocution that you attempt to pass off as posts. Lol.
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For the record: I have research interests in economic fluctuations and growth, labour market dynamics, preference elicitation and welfare measurement , small island economies, microeconomics with applications to regional and industrial economics. Moreover, growth cycles, macroeconomics, transition economics and European economic integration, globalisation; global capitalism and history of economic thought.
Let’s hope you are as unimpressed by that list as I was of yours.
Even more so, I'd wager. My "research interests" go far beyond mere economics.
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You’ve ignorantly misconstrued my original assertion here.Rhetorical comparative figures of speech, such as simile are species of metaphor distinguished by how the comparison is communicated. It is the same for metonymy, parable, and synecdoche. One who has acquired a mastery of the language would be more PRECISE and not use the parent terminology.
No, I've not misconstrued anything. You clearly attempted to discredit my labeling of your similie as a metaphor. You were wrong. All similies ARE metaphors, and no amount of babbling you attempt will change that "hard fact". Lol.
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Do me a favour and take a gander at reintrepreted, conservativism, econmy, repsonding, upong, similie x6, bloviatiated, ad homimen, enviroment, platitidinous, encsonced (a)merican all words that are presented erroneously in your post. And this from someone who claims to be editing other people's essays and writings for content, clarity and grammar? Haha.
Oh gosh, you've found some typos in my 1000+ word post! Wow, you
really got me there, eh? Haha. I admit I do suffer from exhaustion induced dyslexia at times, and as you can see most of them typos consist of inverted letters. I've already pointed out your much more serious grammatical and comprehension errors, multiple times. If typos produced at 6 am, when I'm half asleep writing a post on a forum to some pretentious upstart, qualify as a victory for you, then by all means, enjoy it. : ) ... because both you and I know, that I can spell all those words and many, many more. In fact my vocabulary and spelling acuity was at university level, when I was 9 years old, in the fourth grade. Lol. And no, I don't merely "claim" to edit other people's writing. I actually do it. Singling out a few typos of words we both know I can easily spell, at best, speaks to my own laziness in responding to your posts.
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And here’s the big one, you’ve went and spelt simile incorrectly six times! Six fucking times! Ok I will allow one or two as typo but six? That’s just fucking dyslexic and tells me you didn’t even know what a simile was until you fucking Googled it.
Actually, wrong again. "Similie" is just a variant spelling of simile. : ) You try so hard, too. It's cute.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SimilieMos.Def wrote:
So now we finally see the truth. Your use of English attemptsto go down the correct line yet even a mere wannabe bookworm is a miserable driveller to me in this informal environment.
"attemptsto" ? Wtf is that? A typo!? Lol. Can you smell the fucking hypocrisy? Lmfao.
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Quite a big chunk of my work history has been in procurement consultancy where copia verborum and “correct” taste in diction are paramount. I have led on 20,000 word contracts in excess of £2m spanning a variety of industries. I’ve gained a 1st at undergraduate and a distinction at Masters. I am now working towards publication of my PhD research and furthering my commitments as a Board Member to a number of not-for-profit organisations. Needles to say, I am also a major shareholder in a Group Ltd with all units profitable, something I attained when I was at a very young age and using nothing but capital I made off of my own back. Unless you have achievements to stack up against these (and working for daddy’s business doesn’t cut it) then I suggest you spare me the thin bullshit of your superior English and most definitely the questioning of my educational credentials because I assuredly trump you in every facet of those there mentioned. Indeed, whilst I debate and have my work critiqued by a panel of esteemed professors from disparate fields of study, you are busy testing out arguments with Bear on MSN, proof reading and helping Vampy cheat her way through basic management modules. You hurl words such as audacity, gall, ignorance, inadequacy and invalidness at me? Try looking in the fucking mirror, you hypocritical little shit.
Oh, bra-fucking-vo. What a bunch of balderdash. I could give a fuck less about how much money you've made, or how far along in your studies of economics and business you are. You pretend your English is perfect. While you may be handy with a spell checker, your perspicacity with English is still not apparent. You certainly have copia verBOREum, but any idiot can write volumes that say very little. Your little list of accomplishments means nothing to me. I do not measure "success" in dollars or by the esteem of some economics instructors. I measure "success" in life by quality of relationships and impact on others, and I've excelled at both. I could care less about money and the lack of advertisements on my websites, despite the fact that I'm barely scraping by, is a testament to my claims. So no, I don't count as an achievement that I make myself available to work for peanuts for my greedy father who only calls me when he absolutely can't work without a second person. Rather, that is an example of my charity. : )
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And beyond all the above, I’ve taken an “in vivo” research approach to regional variances of dialect and accent across Britain, the Americas and the Common Wealth realm. My interests include slang, catch phrases, argot, colloquialisms, tomfoolery, conservative, general and advanced received pronunciation to name but a few. This is so that I can speak and write promptly, easily and with a variety of different styles. Some appreciate the way I express myself, others do not. There are then individuals like you who appear ignorant enough to mock the words and metaphors I use without fully understanding 1) the motives behind their use and 2) their origins or rather various origins.
I'll mock anyone's "metaphors" (yes, you are now referring to the similie of yours as a metaphor, though you attempted to discredit me for it! LMAO) if they lack substance. I learned long ago from English professors how to properly construct metaphors, and how to avoid metaphors which lack parallels - you obviously have not. While you were busy studying economics and how to insult someone with slang terms from around the world, at your age, I was busy studying Chemical Engineering, physics, mathematics and instrumentation. English I had down well before that age. Lol. Here's your earlier "metaphor":
"Stack it up against reality though and all the flair and finesse tapers like a signal flare."
And another:
"...intelligence is predominantly a result of grinding up thy loins and going to work with all the indomitable energy of Hannibal sealing the Alps."
I understand the "motives behind their use" and "their origins". That you can manufacture simpleton metaphors doesn't negate their inapplicability and lack of parallelism. You won't learn this in economics class, or studying how to cuss in Swahili. Lol.
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You will find that some are a continuation and development of Anglo-Saxon settlers to the North East in the 5th century which differ in phonology, morphology, syntax and lexicon. Others I may choose to apply can be traced to the period of ‘carboniferous capitalism’ or even witty, charismatic, sadistic and frightening terms circulated across Australian penitentiary divisions in the late 70s.
Bloviation. Perhaps you can research the rich etymological history of that word, when you have some time. Lol. And your two cited metaphors... to which era are you harkening back, with them? Merely citing Hannibal's lust to conquer and attempting to construe that as how intelligence can be gotten through sheer effort, is flawed and inapplicable. Never use metaphors unless they actually bring MORE meaning to your prose; otherwise, they'll only detract from it.
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Understand that that much of it is designed to be irreverent, humorous, different or startling. At the source they were crafted by relevantly uneducated people in necessitous times. It is not appropriate to critique them as thought I deliver them as terminology in my ‘grey literature’.
"as thought I deliver" ?? What's this, ANOTHER grammatical error? Where's this team of specialists who review your writing, now? Perhaps you should submit it to them first, before bothering to post here, because it only exposes your continuing hypocrisy.
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Thus far Knot you’ve shown a truly unforgiveable lack of prudence and are clearly out of your depth.
Clearly
not. Lol. … and “unforgiveable”? Did your team of grammatical professionals not teach you how to spell? It’s unforgivable, Mossy. You take issue with
obvious typos of mine, yet you make spelling and grammar errors all through this post! Now
that is unforgivable. Lol.
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Haha ok then smart lad, post your next fucking reply in French and give me the headache of costs and translation because I think this is a prevarication.
En fait, ce n'est pas un subterfuge. Je parle et j'écris couramment en anglais et en français. J'ai deux enfants en immersion école française, qui sont sur la bonne voie de devenir bilingues. Nous sommes obligés d'apprendre le français dans les écoles publiques au Canada et j'ai excellé en elle, comme je le fais dans tous les sujets que je tente.
Not only is my written French excellent, but I also pronounce it perfectly, as well - in both Canadian and France's pronunciation propensities. Vous perdez, encore une fois.
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Merely remembered? Hardly, mate. You searched around then it was with the advantage of twenty-twenty hindsight that you went for it. What else could you have confronted me with? You’ve got virtually nothing. I hardly chat to be people on here or in chat rooms, there’s no MSN or anything there like. I’m a monologist who distances himself from the ideologue of bullshit, everyday life chit-chat.
Yes, I "merely remembered". I did not "search". I did not even look at your old post about Obama. I didn't quote any of it, which is a clue, because when I do cite a specific post, I generally directly quote it and answer to any and all points raised (or razed, as here) in it. But in this case, I had no call to quote you. It was quite simple to remember your optimistic idealism, and momentarily harken back to it. I can confront you with all manner of criticisms, in fact, without bothering to scour through old posts or logs of my chat, or anything else other than my boundless, exacting memory. Memories like you spending literally hours per day, posting rap lyrics into my chat room. Lol. Were you testing out your skillz in "phonology, morphology, syntax and lexicon." then? Haha.
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Yeah the measures I listed were all in short, lucid format. Many heady formulations that the current administration used in an attempt to solve the crisis. What did you do? You fucking dismissed them all in panoptic fashion without displaying any technical knowledge of them or applying any constructive or objective discourse on their performance.
Dismissed them as you do to the bulk of my posts? As noted, I already said you quote large tracts of my posts, then take issue with perhaps one sentence... or worse yet, some typos! Lol. I didn't need to go through your panoply of economic band-aids, because I already know their efficacy - the national debt of the USA, under GWB rose 4.4 trillion dollars, in 8 years (while funding wars). The national debt under Obama has risen 3 trillion in 2 years. Do the fucking math. Printing more money to "pay" for new initiatives does not "solve" the economic crisis. Printing money only dilutes the value of all money.
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Look at Obama’s performance and particularly when compared to what happened before under Bush’s term. There’s no doubt it helped the US from sliding into a depression. Without any stimulus unemployment would be higher, much higher, than it is today. Having said that though 9.1/4% (right now) it’s a disgrace.
I just did a comparison. Even while funding major wars, over 8 years, Bush only added 4.4 trillion to the national debt. Obama has added nearly that much in a quarter of that time. There's "no doubt" that printing money to address real economic concerns helped the US from sliding into depression? Dream on. You can pretend there is "no doubt" about any hypothetical that never happened, but I won't subscribe to it. And an unemployment rate of 6-10% is exactly what industry has always wanted - a generous unemployed labour pool from which to draw from, and with much competition for jobs, it keeps wages low. Duh. The unemployment rate BALLOONED under Obama and hasn't changed since. But hey - it's bad for business if we're all employed, anyway.
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I doubt it’ll be right until the middle of the decade.
Gosh. How learned of you. Did they teach you this is Economics class? i.e., how to push off your predictions years ahead, so that they won't have to be tested. Lol. First, you act like Obama will be our new economic saviour. Now, two years later, all you can point to are some fucking band-aids he created by printing money out of thin air at the Federal Reserve! Lol. Sure sure, in half a decade all this printing of money will be felt - as fucking inflation.
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Also, during the crisis there’s been spending on two fucking wars, which is spending that does not stimulate the economy. It provides the least favourable cost-to-benefit ratio in terms of the economy of almost any other kind of spending. And yet more, at the time of posting who could have predicted the freefall other than say Roubini.
Whose choice is it to continue funding on "two fucking wars"? Obama's. His grandiose plans and platform promises were of the same ilk as any other bullshit politician in this system.
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The negatives are that the handling of the bankers was way too-lenient, that HAMP can be looked upon with sneering-disbelief, the stimulus wasn’t big enough and by design it was flawed because it was Obama’s tax cuts vs. real stimulus.
Blah blah blah.
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You’re attempting to take gratification from “rightly predicting” Obama and his team would not make any epochal shifts from the dominance of free-market economics. Haha. That’s essentially what you predicted with the “the very necessary reconsideration of the economy as a whole” comment. You couldn’t have made a more common sense postulation! A lot of what you ask for, however, completely deviates from the rule of practical policy recommendations that actually have a chance of winning broad public support or being enacted by Congress. Why don’t you fucking move from rhetoric to reality and understand where my position has been from the start.
I don't much give a fuck what will win "broad public support". I'm talking about what will actually work. To have a revolution, there must be revolutionary ideas, and leaders (not unlike Ron Paul) who have the stamina and intestinal fortitude to promote and implement them. The public doesn't understand the intricacies of the economy - the leaders do. Obama is an abject failure, economically and all major economic indicators prove it. Argue them all you want, but save your bullshit forecasting from the Oracle of Optimism for those inclined to astrology or other such nonsense.
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I mean, the reconsiderations you're presenting as black-and-white view are not implemented for a number of reasons mate. Too many to address here. Essentially though it’s because no one is willing or able to come up with a reconstruction.
Agreed. That doesn't mean they shouldn't be done.
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You also need to get in your thick skull that many economists are idealists, they’re pursuing knowledge and trying to make our society better but they also have career concerns.
Here's an example of a comma splice - where you've separated two complete sentences with a comma. I guess they don't teach you
them in economics class either, huh. Lol. I know full well about economists, past and present. Current economists are no paragons of virtue as you'd have us believe, and their collusion with big business, alone, is enough to hold them in contempt.
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In terms of academia it means you have to publish, which means you have to be accepted by journals then being accepted by journals means you have to go through peer review process and that means the model has to be accepted by other economists or other social scientists. This means there’s an obstacle where standards are set by your peers/elders and there develops an assembly, some parts of this are good such as discipline and what are accepted explanations but some parts means one can get snagged or trapped in a set of hypothesis which are accepted within a circle but are in fact not good descriptions of the world in current operation or not good in addressing the key problems.
Oh, I am well versed in the dynamics of "getting published". This is nothing new. Wander back to Watson and Crick and their ruthless, ego-driven lust for being the first to publish about the structure of DNA, for a decades old, well known example of this.
"a set of hypothesis" is wrong. The plural of "hypothesis" is hypotheses, idiot.
If leaders want to lead, they do not subscribe to business as usual. They do not worry about "peer review" and being accepted by the established norms. That is only a recipe for propagation.
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One of Adam Smiths basic insights is that people try to establish monopolies, restrict competition and it’s also the same for the marketplace of ideas. Ideas that challenge conventional wisdom are even more troubling than products that challenge in a dominant firm. There is great resistance to unconventional ideas. Always has been. You know, some of the most influential papers in economics have been rejected by 3 journals before being accepted by the fourth and these are people have had a Nobel Prize for their work.
"Always has been." is a sentence fragment. Ah, so you do see the profit in revolutionary ideas. Good. So you finally agree with me, after all this circumlocution. You could have saved us both some trouble and admitted it from the start, before you bothered to profess on the "accomplishments" of Obama.
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And before you jump to conclusions I’m an advocate of radical reform as capitalism has been clearly shown to have a self-destructive streak.
You cannot both be a proponent of Obama and an advocate of radical reform - they are mutually exclusive. Obama is anything but radical.
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At the outset, Obama should have taken a more solid stance. That’s initially applying Keynesian theory then moving to a more social market economy. We would have seen harder regulation with barriers placed in front of the banks and their marauding instincts and even pulling to pieces their assets and nationalising aspects of them. The state and the political system would still remain the definitive player but more democratic and focused on people’s requirements. As requirements, people would be put on green and infrastructure projects for decades.
Blah blah blah.
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The stimuli would have been a vision for the long-term future generations and not the short-term.
"Stimuli" is plural. You can say "the stimulus" or "these stimuli", but technically, you cannot say "the stimuli". Another job for your team of professors to ferret out for you.
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But honestly it’s probably going to take many more periods of economic instability, international pressures and a general sense of anxiety over the future before any significant strides are made on these utopian economies.
Ah, what a preDICKtion. Your summary basically says "we're not out of the woods yet". Lol. Is this what your years of economic study have afforded you? Smh @ the education system.
Now then.
What you avoided in this post is my charge that you didn't understand, though you clearly quoted me, that I never once said the measures applied in 1929 SHOULD have been applied in this crisis. You can't even own up to when you are wrong. At least I admit to when I am. Sure, I made a few typos, from typing very fast, while being up very late. What's your excuse for not answering to direct accusations like the one just mentioned? What's you excuse for a litany of spelling and grammar errors in a post where you attempt to discredit my English superiority by pointing out a few typos? What's your excuse for "heaping laurels" on yourself when you clearly lack the proficiency with English that you claim.
Stick to your copia verborum and 20 000 word, 2 million British pound contract filings, because you sure as hell are no English master, "matey". Lol.
Nonetheless, I look forward to your further objurgation and bloviation, now that I have some limited time to dissect it.