Below is an argument that I recently had with Hitcher, covering topics such as common decency, rights vs privileges, and what constitutes free speech in an online, live medium. The argument went on for an hour and a half before Hitcher finally ducked out, and the conversation was cut into the next several posts, because of the character limit here, per post.Hitcher was dressed up as Samantha aka ShyKitty, using a perversion of her nickname: <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505>

20:22:52 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> this is like arguing with knot, minus the constant insults
20:22:54 <WaineMaine851> states can disolve the entire fed gubment
20:23:03 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Unions have declined in proportion to the entire country
20:23:05 <WaineMaine851> 'throw the whole idea out
20:23:15 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> private unions have
20:23:26 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> public unions have gone up
20:23:34 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> what does this tell us about public opinion?
20:23:40 <WaineMaine851> states created the fed gubment and the states can shit can it
20:23:54 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i think lincoln fucked that up waine
20:24:20 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> He did
20:24:22 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> if u cant secede it's pretty much a statement that ur no longer independent
20:24:27 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> by force
20:24:34 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Lincoln was wrong, but he won the war
20:24:38 <WaineMaine851> 17th amendment put a road block in it, but it till can happen its just harder
20:25:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> dont change the subject. u dont get to talk until u acknowledge my points. host or not dammit
20:25:26 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Lincoln declared that the Union creates the States, rather than the States created the Union. He was wrong, but he did win the war. So thats the law
20:25:41 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so right is not dependent on law?
20:25:54 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Most are
20:26:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u just contradicted both ur ad populum red herring and ur original position about 'rights'
20:26:20 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> game set match, quod erat demonstrandum. thank you.
20:26:21 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Bill of Rights are inherent and come from Nature and Nature's god
20:26:23 .·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505 takes a bow
20:26:37 <WaineMaine851> the civil war was never about the slaves, it was about northern debt, just like this in Wi, isn't about the unions, its about the cost of the employees
20:26:57 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Union rights are not in the Bill of Rights. They were legislated over a century
20:27:02 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and these other things we've added that completely contradcit the natural rights.... are somehow rights also?
20:27:37 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> When Congress passes a law allowing people to organize a workplace, thats definately rights
20:27:55 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but what if it contradicts one of these 'natural' rights?
20:28:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> brb
20:28:02 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> anytime u've attempted to argue with me, hitch, u've used fallacious reasoning every single time
20:28:03 <WaineMaine851> if it was a right, congreess wouldn't have to let them
20:28:09 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> answer that question
20:28:24 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> There is no contradiction
20:28:32 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i'm well acquainted with logical fallacies and ready to point them out in any debate with u, on any subject
20:29:11 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> We've been discussing the breaking of the Unions by fascist governors
20:29:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> aye i been watchin with one eye
20:29:48 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Strip the public of those rights, and we really will have an evil Oligarchy
20:29:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n hitch's argument is non sequitur.. even if unions were involved in attempting to manipulate the govt, so fucking what?
20:30:03 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so do corporations
20:30:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n because they attempt to, doesnt mean the entire notion of unions is flawed
20:30:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's non sequitur
20:30:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and because private unions have declined, doesnt mean that it follows from workers not wanting them
20:30:56 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> another assumption.
20:31:02 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> I guess when corporations take over the government, thats capitalism, but when Unions do, it's a communist plot
20:31:05 <Cato500> brb.
20:31:09 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lol aye
20:31:20 Cato500_23670 has left
20:31:23 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Thats the argument here
20:32:18 <WaineMaine851> knot the dif is, in the private sector, you can avoid the higher costs for a union by buying somnething thats not union made, with public, you have to use the cops, the garbage collection, the firemen, the teachers, the road crews etc.
20:32:50 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well everyone isnt just about getting shit cheaper, like u, waine
20:32:56 <WaineMaine851> the private unions know they can't ask for the world and price the product too high
20:33:22 <WaineMaine851> or the whole business goes to china
20:34:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well im against "free trade" too
20:34:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> for that matter.
20:34:24 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> canada was better off b4 nafta
20:34:47 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n personally, i avoid shit made in china
20:34:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i'll pay more, idc
20:35:18 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> yeah
20:35:32 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> often its the lowest quality crap anyway
20:35:33 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Free Trade is a scam
20:35:36 <WaineMaine851> and the unions in Wi, have priced themselves so high, the tax payers can't afford the bennies, for years unions have enabled the gubment to kick the can down the street an have settled for less pay and more retirement and bennies that policy is due now and its too much
20:35:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well idk how it compares with the other states
20:36:36 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> do u?
20:36:57 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> well i'm glad to hear ur so familiar with fallacious "reasoning" (which doesnt realy qualify as reasoning now does it?). tell me, is "Hitcherslife.blogspot" a fine piece of reeasoning?
20:37:02 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz without a comparison, i'd just have to take u on ur word that Wi's is way out of whack with the rest of the country
20:37:13 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that aint my work, hitch
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20:37:17 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u know muppet did it
20:37:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so dont even bother
20:37:23 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is "he stuck around because he's obsessed with me" and "he left because he 'can't handle it' a nice bit of 'reasoning'?
20:37:25 <~Kimbyr0xx-666> hey knotterz
20:37:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> more fallacious "reasoning"
20:37:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> kimberz
20:37:46 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u are obsessed with me, hitch
20:37:48 <~Kimbyr0xx-666> wheres yr room these days? i cant seem to find it
20:37:58 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> evidence of that is that i been peeking in here for the past few days
20:38:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> whether she made that page isnt my point. there u go astray already. i'm wondering whether posting that in response to something u disagree with is a good bit of reasoning. is it?
20:38:16 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n u've mentioned me, even tho i wasnt typing at all, no less than 10 times
20:38:24 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> oh, so i'm obsessed with u. so that make me wrong in any 'argument'?
20:38:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> earlier even, u invoked me again
20:38:31 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yes or no
20:38:36 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> which argument is that?
20:38:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yes, and ur proving my point right now, by adducing fallacious bullshit as usual
20:39:02 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u cant answer direct question or finish out a point. it's always personal with u
20:39:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i'm not saying anything that's false
20:39:16 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and year aftyer year u continue ur little war, yet i'm "obsessed"
20:39:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> when did i ever say ur obsession with me is the cause of ur fallaciousness?
20:39:33 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i rarely even mention ur obsession with me, in fact
20:39:40 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont recall saying a thing about it in the past year
20:39:44 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> tho on u go.
20:39:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u never acknowledge a point. u just change the subject, and usually to something personal,
20:39:53 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> kim should be obsessed with me
20:39:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, that's what ur doing
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20:40:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> when did i say ur obsession with me is the cause of ur fallaciousness?
20:40:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well?
20:40:19 ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420 hugz Kimz:))
20:40:23 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i didnt.
20:40:23 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> do u acknowledge a contradiction in "he's tlaking to me because he's obsessed" and "he isnt talking to me because he can't handle it"?
20:40:37 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u can do both of those behaviours, in fact
20:40:38 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz u do
20:40:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u talk ABOUT me constantly
20:40:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz ur obsessed with me
20:40:58 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> do u acknowledge that speaking of my motivations in the first place is irelevant (fallacious)?
20:40:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and u hide from me in person, coz u cant handle me
20:41:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and ur first instinct has always been to ban me
20:41:13 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> as i said, ur prioving my overall points right now
20:41:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> to silence me
20:41:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> tho i've never silenced u
20:41:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i'm proving that ur both a coward, and obsessed
20:41:31 <(FL)Ço§m|¥|µffîñ Jo.069> back to court next week
20:41:40 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> it isnt instinct, it's a decison. i think it's best to ban ppl who act like that
20:41:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u ban me b4 i even type, hundreds of times
20:41:58 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> its u who needed banning
20:42:02 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> eventually, yes
20:42:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, from the start
20:42:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u banned me at ur whim, without rhyme nor reason, because u dont like me
20:42:28 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> 'u started off on the wrong foot, and have made sure ever since to try and stay one-up on the insults
20:42:32 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u are not the arbiter of decency
20:42:36 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u are in fact indecent.
20:42:47 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> making u a hypocrite for attempting to silence those u feel indecent
20:42:58 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no u started on wrong foot
20:43:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> no, there was always reason. but see, that's sort of irrelevant to the fact that u 'argue' shittiliy (excpet as eveidence of it lol)
20:43:18 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u shud try just sticking to a point some time
20:43:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well ur reasons are invalid
20:43:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and time has shown that to be true
20:43:37 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz here i am, back where i was b4 u showed up
20:43:39 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yet u ne3ver show them to be irrelevant. u just declare them so and then get personal
20:43:41 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and there u are, way down there
20:43:46 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lacking the power u love so much
20:43:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> saw u begging welt for it the other day
20:43:53 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> motivations again
20:43:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> haha.
20:44:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u cant do it can u?
20:44:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont show ur reasons to be irrrelevant, coz u dont even say them
20:44:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u just ban me without provocation
20:44:21 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u simply refuse to stick to logic or act like a civilised person
20:44:41 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i badn u because u do things like pasting that muppet link
20:44:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> all i do is stick to logic, and there's hundreds of ppl here on mx who'll easily disagree with u that im not civil
20:45:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so what, @ muppet link?
20:45:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u were banning me for no reason b4 i posted it
20:45:13 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> when i stopped comin in this particular room u had pasted that link again that very day, yet i had to hear retards asking if _I cud ever give upa grudge lol
20:45:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i posted it beCAUSE u ban me for no reason
20:45:38 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> what a convenient little lie
20:45:41 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well its no crime here to post links
20:45:50 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur sure not the boss of that.
20:46:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and if ur embarrassed bout ur history of shoplifting
20:46:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well too fucking bad.
20:46:09 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> cry me a goddamn river, hitch
20:46:10 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> someone personal biz is THEIRS, and i definitely always believe in being rid of ppl who wont recognise that
20:46:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> once its out there, its out there
20:46:31 < KardioMangler 063> girls, girls, girls, do try to be civil
20:46:36 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> like my name and address n phone number were out there (in here) week after week
20:46:40 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> did u ban ppl that posted it?
20:46:41 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nah.
20:46:45 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u chuckled it up with them
20:46:46 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> this isnt about emotion you dumbass, so do ur own crying. there's a point. there's always a point, but all u apparently have ever cared about is controlling others' speech
20:46:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so dont preach to me about personal information


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20:46:57 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u posted ur own name and address did u not?
20:47:05 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nope
20:47:09 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> YOU pasted it in public
20:47:14 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> funny, u said u did
20:47:17 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i posted an address, once to 9s
20:47:18 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> now ur story chages?
20:47:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> just an address
20:47:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nope
20:47:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nothing's changed
20:47:27 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and u pasted it in the room didnt u?
20:47:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur making shit up
20:47:31 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> now ur just fucking lying
20:47:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no
20:47:40 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> or else u were lying when u told me u pasted it in the room
20:47:42 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> take ur pick
20:47:43 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> he said he wanted to do me physical harm
20:47:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so i gave him my address
20:47:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> right here in the room
20:47:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> invited him over
20:48:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> he never did show up, either
20:48:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but no, never posted my name or phone number
20:48:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> not once, in any room, ever
20:48:19 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i did
20:48:20 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> lol
20:48:28 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u either pasted it in public or u didnt. if u did it was fair game i and i can laugh it up however much i want. if u didnt then whoever DID shud be goten rid of (imo). but the thing is, u SAID u did several time
20:48:45 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, i said i posted my address
20:48:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'm more inclined to believe ur lying right now
20:48:50 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz that's all i posted.
20:48:56 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> prove im lying then
20:49:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> uni says u posted it in public
20:49:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i had no reason to give out my name
20:49:09 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> I'm gonna grab some food. brb
20:49:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> uni's wrong, then
20:49:14 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i cant prove ur lying, only that u said otherwise in the past
20:49:22 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u might have been ;ying THEN
20:49:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, u just assume i posted more than my address
20:49:28 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i thought it was funny when tim spammed my addy and name
20:49:34 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> even my phone number
20:49:38 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> no one mother fucker called
20:49:40 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u posted it in my room
20:49:42 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> well all i have to go on is you saying so. i hope i can be forgiven for taking ur word lol
20:49:43 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> :)
20:49:48 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'v enver posted it u dumbass
20:49:49 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i know
20:49:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> not u, hitch
20:49:56 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> greg.
20:50:01 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i did it to prove a point
20:50:14 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> uni used to fe=requently, and i'd call that a bitch-ass move, except u said u'd done it first, which amkes it fair game
20:50:26 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> now u say otherwise lol
20:50:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and u supported uni's actions
20:50:36 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nope, i said i posted my address only
20:50:39 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but see, this whole discussion is just ur usual subject change
20:50:41 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n never said anything but.
20:50:45 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nope
20:50:48 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u never finish a point
20:50:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> its u making bullshit lies, like usual
20:50:58 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> which point havent i finished?
20:51:02 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i aint leavin.
20:51:05 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> im still here, chattin
20:51:06 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ur intellectually dishonest (not that there's any law against that. but i dont hafta respect it either)
20:51:11 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and still here lying
20:51:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> why, because ur wrong about me not posting my name and phone number?
20:51:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so im dishonest, because u make shit up?
20:51:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lmao
20:51:35 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> well if I"m wrong about that, then YOU were too when u said otherwise lol
20:51:37 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u werent even here for it.
20:51:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and u dont have anyone here to confirm that i posted anything but my address
20:52:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur totally full of shit
20:52:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> as always
20:52:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never said otherwise
20:52:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> not once.
20:52:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i remember what i do, and what i dont do
20:52:22 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> when i got on uni's ass about it he said u'd posted it in public urself. so i asked YOU about that (because i care more about facts than who i like or dislike, which is more than i can credit u for) and you said, more than once, that u had
20:52:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> esp insofar as personal information goes
20:52:42 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> uni was exposed as a liar tho
20:52:45 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> in public on vladd's forum
20:52:50 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> he made up lies about me
20:52:54 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> meanwhile, did u ever see me posting my personal info? nah
20:52:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> pure unadulterated bs lies
20:53:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz i made fun of him in chat.
20:53:08 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> where is ur justification for posting that muppet link over and over for years?
20:53:18 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i would have posted his name and addy in petsex
20:53:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz its in the public domain now
20:53:22 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> it isnt that the page is so bothersome, but ur activity is
20:53:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and coz ur a rotten piece of shit n idc if ppl learn ur history
20:53:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never made the site
20:53:52 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i didnt put it in the public domain. some butthurt chick did. and u act like it's pure fact, and post it frequently
20:53:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nor did i do the shoplifting.
20:54:07 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> noe if _I had posted it, it'd be fair game wouldnt it?
20:54:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if it was pure nonsense, totally outlandish allegations, u wouldnt be so butthurt over them
20:54:25 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> another subject change lol
20:54:26 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> someone is a klepto?
20:54:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idc what u post.
20:54:31 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u just Cant do it can u?
20:54:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> just coz i dont follow ur lead, dont mean im changing the subject
20:54:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> im the boss, here, pal
20:54:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> not u
20:54:54 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> according to knot i am a klepto and several otehr things apaprently
20:54:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur just in between dumpsters
20:55:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ur the boss here?
20:55:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> yep
20:55:05 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> interesting
20:55:07 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> did i stutter?
20:55:21 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> funny u just seem like another peon
20:55:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> sure sure.
20:55:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> is that all then?
20:55:30 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> "sure sure"
20:55:49 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> tim
20:55:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> :)
20:55:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> greg.
20:55:59 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u tell me. u addressed me first (u must be obsessed) and then changed the subject 20 times before u cud get cornered on anything factual
20:56:09 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> you got mad when i was saying the pedo shit too, so that same goes for you tho
20:56:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, u were in here speaking about me, hitch.
20:56:13 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> yet again
20:56:17 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> due to ur obsession
20:56:46 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont like ppl making up bs lies about me, aye greg
20:56:53 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u get no considerations from me knot. you've consistently behaved like a lowlife over a period of years, and acted like it was justified right out in public
20:56:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but i dont go making up lies about them to fight it
20:56:58 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i dont think anyone does
20:57:03 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> did u see me spreading lies about u, greg?
20:57:08 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> but i just laugh at the ones made p about me
20:57:09 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> is that how i retaliated?
20:57:20 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but i guess spe=reading lies isnt the same as making them up eh?
20:57:23 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> well at one time you were talking shit about me with claudia
20:57:24 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> did i make up stories about u?
20:57:38 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i should say
20:57:40 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> joining in
20:57:47 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> yeah claudia brings up lots of shit, n we all joined in at time
20:57:49 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> takin the piss
20:57:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but we all get the piss takin out of us in there
20:58:00 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> if you dont like lying
20:58:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but did i go making up stories?
20:58:06 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> then you shouldnt join with her
20:58:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idk if she's lying
20:58:13 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idk if muppet is lying
20:58:16 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> she is
20:58:16 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but i know hitcher lies
20:58:17 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> lol
20:58:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i've seen it.
20:58:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i've known muppet for years
20:58:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> never once caught her lying
20:58:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> talked on phone, on line, hundreds of hours
20:58:37 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> not one lie?
20:58:37 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> ive know claudia longer tha any
20:58:47 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i caught claudia lying
20:58:49 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n i called her out for it
20:58:52 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> im sure you have
20:58:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well.. bending the truth
20:58:58 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> she does alot lol
20:58:58 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> we had a few fights
20:59:03 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> anything i want anyone to know about my personal life, good or bad, i will tell them. and if i tell them in a room then it's obviously fair game for u to make fun of if ur so inclined. other than that it's my biz. if some third party comes along making up stories about ur personal biz i have no reason to treat that as fair game and would be as asswad if i did.
20:59:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but i dont go making stories up bout ppl
20:59:20 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> her kids have different dads
20:59:25 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> she said i was lying about that
20:59:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well ur not the boss of what i discuss with anyone, hitch
20:59:29 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> one who betrays a trust proves himself an untrustable person and a threat to anyone around.
20:59:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> even if im making up bs lies (which i never do)
20:59:45 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> how come u never manned up and posted ur addy to stu anyway?
20:59:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> im free to discuss, malign, slander u any way i want
20:59:56 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> he posted his right in the room lol
20:59:59 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> uh huh
21:00:03 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> he didnt post it to me
21:00:06 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> he posted it to werd
21:00:09 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i do that all the time
21:00:11 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> who was talkin bout shootin him
21:00:16 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> werd said he wold shoot me
21:00:17 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so he said cmon over, n try
21:00:19 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> well ofc u are, but that doesnt mena u cant prove urself an asswad by ur choices lol
21:00:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i had no reason to post anything to greg
21:00:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> mostly we get along
21:00:35 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so why didnt u man up and post urs? u actuall afraid?/
21:00:39 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n he never threatened my life
21:00:50 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i only post my address to ppl tho threaten my physically
21:00:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> as greg did himself.
21:00:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> to werd
21:00:56 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ur kung fu is weak?
21:01:00 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> im not going to make it known if i wanna be like that
21:01:01 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> heh
21:01:39 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> making a threat online wud be retarded since it cant be carried out. but if a person were willing to actually meet up and do something about it that'd be a bit different
21:01:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> when i posted my address to uni, was when he physically threatened me, too
21:02:00 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i have driven 3 hours to wreck someone one time
21:02:12 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> he was fucking with a gf at the time on myspace
21:02:19 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i let my presence be known
21:02:20 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> like, years ago when i told some irrational fag that i just wasnt too impressed with him, he said "oh i'll impress on you hitcher --with my blade" lolol
21:02:28 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> what kind of fucking fag would sau something like that?
21:02:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i said impress UPON u
21:02:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ah, so now u admit saying it, tho a month ago u said not
21:02:52 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> damn ur fulla shit dude
21:02:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> just using ur own terminology back, but using the word "impress" differently
21:02:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> a pun
21:03:04 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> will u admit to posting ur addy to uni next week?
21:03:13 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i may just as wellve said a hammer or a tire iron, or anything that makes a physical impression
21:03:21 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> a pun? mmhmm. looks like faggy online threat to me
21:03:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> unlike the type of impress u were talking about, when u said ur not impressed
21:03:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so i just reused ur own word back, in a different way, as i often do when words have more than one meaning
21:04:17 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and let's not just ignnore the fact that, even tho muppet never managed to find out my real personal info, ur desire to continually paste what u beleive to BE it bespeaks a likely hope that someone somewhere with more balls than u might hunt me up and shut me up
21:04:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n u took it all serious.
21:04:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> got all butthurt
21:04:35 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n banned me from v44 over it lol
21:04:38 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> because it's obvious that pasting that muppet link over and over is just ur way of trying to shut me up
21:04:38 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> who is muppet?
21:04:59 <dai264> a physical psychological impression of what was thought, perhaps you could use your mind to fuse images onto negative slides
21:05:07 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's quite a stretch @ someone else may huntu down n shut u up
21:05:08 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> some online chick who got butthurt over a meetup and made a hitvhe3r-sucks page
21:05:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never once thought anyone would bother to hunt u down to shut u up
21:05:23 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> like u fucking matter.
21:05:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lmao
21:05:37 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> what an imagination u got there.
21:05:38 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> a stretch? well maybe, but it's obvious that u paste the link to shut me up and hopefully make me go away. why else do it?
21:05:46 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is that ur committment to 'free speech'?
21:05:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i paste it to show ppl what u are
21:05:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i believe muppet over u
21:05:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i know ur a liar.
21:06:02 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i've seen u lie many, many times
21:06:03 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> even today
21:06:05 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> if she hot?
21:06:06 <dai264> knot can melt images onto old 1930's slides
21:06:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never caught muppet lie even once.
21:06:12 <dai264> just with his eyes
21:06:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> aye she's pretty.
21:06:13 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> did draging a half dozen of ur friends in here to basically take over show ur committment to free speech too?
21:06:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but a JW
21:06:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> a liberal JW
21:06:23 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but still a JW


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21:06:25 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> now im going to need tit pics
21:06:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> id ont drag anyone in here
21:06:37 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u do stupid shit and then act like ppl are just picking on u for no reason lol
21:06:39 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ppl follow me to see the action sometimes
21:06:42 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yeah, not ur fault
21:06:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ppl hear my story and agree or disagree, sometimes
21:06:53 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> not like ur trying to contriol how otehr ppl run their rooms or anything
21:06:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but i dont "drag" anyone anywhere
21:06:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> or control ppl in anyway
21:07:06 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i sure dont.
21:07:12 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> no, u'd never try to control anything anyone does lol
21:07:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> have i banned u?
21:07:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> do u think banning ppl is controlling them?
21:07:27 <dai264> yes you do tim
21:07:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i sure do.
21:07:31 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ur acts are not the acts of a control freak. u live n let live right?
21:07:39 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i have not banned hitcher, ever, dai
21:07:45 <dai264> you tried to convince people into free speech
21:07:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> how am i controlling u, hitch?
21:07:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> they are free to disagree with me, dai
21:07:58 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> if someone wants to run a channel some way that u dont agree with, well, u just leave em be right?
21:08:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont force anyone to do anything
21:08:10 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> they're free to disagree with u, so long as they do shit ur way
21:08:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> what channel is that?
21:08:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i cant imagine.
21:08:38 <dai264> well, your room is heavily firewalled courtesy to young coders
21:08:39 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> how bout this one?
21:08:47 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> they're doing shit my way?
21:08:49 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> since when.
21:09:05 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ppl still get banned and silenced, that i dont agree with
21:09:09 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> hardly "my way"
21:09:12 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u didnt just bitch about ur disagreement. u had a dozen knotheads over and then acted like ti was time to take a vote lol
21:09:16 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so transparent
21:09:20 <dai264> they do
21:09:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont bring anyone over, no
21:09:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> we have many concurrent members tho
21:09:34 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yeah firewalled. and blocks proxies lol
21:09:41 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u do block proxies dont u?
21:09:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> yeah coz some few ppl use proxies to get in repeatedly to spam n flood the room
21:09:52 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> hmm..?
21:09:56 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ok so u do
21:09:59 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> how bout spam?
21:10:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no one *needs* to use a proxy to get in the room
21:10:04 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is spamming allowed?
21:10:10 <dai264> he's in a bid to protect free speech
21:10:16 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> no one NEEDs to paste muppet links either. so what?
21:10:21 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is apmming allowed?
21:10:24 <dai264> I never felt free there
21:10:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> spamming = ?
21:10:30 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> lol
21:10:33 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> can i go in there and spam to my heart's content?
21:10:38 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yes or no
21:10:40 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> can i?
21:10:44 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> depends what u call spam
21:10:46 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> define it, first
21:10:48 <dai264> abused by the few that get passed the young pri's firewall
21:10:59 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> doesnt it, tho, depend on what YOU call spam?
21:11:11 <dai264> well proxy script
21:11:17 <dai264> or w/e
21:11:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nope, it depends on the amount u plan on typing something
21:11:22 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> arent there some things that will get me autokicked? like pasting the same fat message over and over?
21:11:23 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> "knot unlimited"
21:11:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> same limitation as always
21:11:35 <dai264> "knot limited"
21:11:41 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so it's about "amount" so "amount" is "limited"?
21:11:46 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ouka server auto boots for flooding
21:11:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is that right?
21:11:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> it has to be, yes
21:12:03 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so if i paste, as i just said a big FAT message over and over, will that get me kicked?
21:12:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz if one person floods the room, the medium cant support everyone else having free speech
21:12:13 <dai264> you even don't go with open source as your main free speech
21:12:21 <dai264> how free is that
21:12:24 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'm just asking about the facts, not about the WWhys
21:12:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if my room is on ouka, it will boot u for flooding so many lines in so many seconds
21:12:32 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> will i get kicked for spamming?
21:12:38 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ah. ok
21:12:39 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if its on wcs, it automutes
21:12:45 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so that is a yes then isnt it?
21:12:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i go back n forth between those two servers
21:12:51 <dai264>[color=#FF0000] <knot> I have my free speech fully locked down
21:12:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, its a "depends which server"
21:13:09 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> lol
21:13:13 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ok, so i can get kicked for spamming, and i can get muted. and i cant even get in with some proxoies....
21:13:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if u flood the room, no one has free speech but u
21:13:35 <dai264> that is a nearly free speech room
21:13:39 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> well, "muted" definieteky sounds compatible with 'free speech' to me...
21:13:43 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'm not asking about the whys
21:13:44 <dai264> I found more open rooms
21:13:46 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> just the facts maam
21:13:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> only when u attempt to usurp everyone else's free speech
21:13:56 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> then u lose urs, yep
21:14:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so, um, if i go in there and i wanna spoof shy, that wont be interfered with will it?
21:14:07 <dai264> exactly
21:14:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz i enforce free speech for everyone, not just one single person
21:14:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n i keep it fair
21:14:14 <dai264> so it's not free speech
21:14:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u've spoofed shy lots of times in there
21:14:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> when were u interfered with?
21:14:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> never.
21:14:44 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so YOU only interfere with stuff that wud interfere with OTHER ppls' speech too>?
21:14:49 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is that what ur saying?
21:14:50 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u've never found more open rooms, dai
21:14:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur just lying
21:15:03 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> do i have that right knot?
21:15:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont do anything, the server handles it
21:15:16 <dai264> yes, but you restricted your free speech
21:15:24 <dai264> and even admit to it
21:15:30 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> do u control the setting in ur the hosting software?
21:15:33 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nope, i enforced the ability for ppl to have free speech
21:15:40 <dai264> so there you go
21:15:44 <dai264> bbl
21:15:50 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i have "floodblock" on yes
21:15:57 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> how does me using a proxy interfere with others' speech?
21:15:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but there is no controlling how it blocks
21:16:06 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> how does me spoofing shy interfere?
21:16:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i already said why proxies were blocked
21:16:16 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and u dont *need* to use a proxy to get in
21:16:22 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> i like to spoof sprinkles
21:16:25 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yeah, but u didnt say how they interfere
21:16:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> go ahead
21:16:33 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> scroll up
21:16:35 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i did so
21:16:46 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> far as i can tell knot, u draw a line somewhere, just like everyone else
21:16:58 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> my line is drawn at what the medium can handle
21:16:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's it
21:17:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> just like all the "enemies of free speeh" there is shit u disallow
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21:17:06 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idc the content of ppl's words
21:17:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> never have.
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21:17:11 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> just the amount
21:17:12 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> if u admin me i'l ban knot
21:17:16 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and we wudnt want that
21:17:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> a limitation of the server, only
21:17:34 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so it's not a limitation u choose via settings somewhere?
21:17:37 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yes or no
21:17:57 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> czu i notice i can do some of these things in otehr rooms
21:18:06 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> its al limitation on the ability for any group of ppl to conduct free speech in this medium
21:18:15 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so either u choose settigns that forbid them, or u choose software that does by design
21:18:18 <dai264> neway
21:18:24 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> no neway
21:18:27 <dai264> free speech was a farce
21:18:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if one person floods the room with 10 messages per second, no one will have any speech at all
21:18:30 <dai264> nn guys
21:18:36 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'v never yet seen knot argue a single thing to conclusion
21:18:43 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ok so no flooding
21:18:45 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> there is no choice but to limit it
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21:18:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> or there is no free speech at all
21:18:58 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is that not a limitation of some sort, whether justified or not?
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21:19:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> a limitation of the medium itself
21:19:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> like if we were all sitting in a room
21:19:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and one person had a megaphone
21:19:21 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> a limitation
21:19:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n the rest didnt
21:19:37 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> the limitation on ppl's hearing limits their ability to hear everyone else
21:19:46 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> someone could argue, well they are all talking, they have free speech
21:19:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but the one with the megaphone (flooding) is drowining them all out
21:20:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so, like all the 'enemies of free speech' u draw a line SOMEwhere. yet because THEY draw it somewhere DIFFERENT from where u do, u condemn them and interfere
21:20:05 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> because of limitation on the medium itself
21:20:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no one of the 40+ regular daily members in my room has a problem with flooders being blocked
21:20:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> they thank me for it and agree it restores free speech
21:20:49 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i fight for everyone's ability to freely chat in this medium
21:20:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n i'll do what's necessary to ensure it
21:21:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but i'll never limit anyone because of the content of their words
21:21:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ever
21:21:16 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's free speech.
21:21:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> as free as it can possibly get
21:21:42 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i condemn ppl who limit the content of others' speech
21:22:02 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'v actually heard ur argument about flooding before, and i happen to agree. but i still dont see how a) the same arguemnt can be used to justify "no spoofing" or "no proxy", and b) dont see how prohibiting these things is consistent with 'free speeech,", or c) how u can act like ur ways are so much better than other ppls who also prohibitu vcertain things, just like you
21:22:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u can use any nic u like in my room
21:22:24 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> this is why it looks control-freaky to me. cuz all i see is some asswad gettgin bent over the idea that OTHER ppl have DIFFERNT standards
21:22:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but u cant use user commands, no
21:22:25 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> joe should be shot in the face
21:22:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> im not obligated to turn on user commands
21:22:51 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'm not obligated not ot ban u
21:22:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> proxies were being used to assualt my room all day long by some few users
21:22:55 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> since i CAN do otehrwise
21:23:09 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so? why shud _I be punished for that?
21:23:11 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> flooding the room over and over and over
21:23:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur not punished, u dont need to proxy in
21:23:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> a few years ago, no one was proxying in
21:23:38 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and i got no complaints from anyone that they cant get in
21:23:43 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> cuz see, like i said earlier, i believe my personal info belongs to ME, and it's up to me to decide what, if ANYthing, i wanna share, and when. and this includes my ip address
21:23:43 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u've been in lots.
21:23:59 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> lots more than u know apparently
21:24:04 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but who cares?
21:24:06 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i'll share whatever i see in the public domain
21:24:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> n idc what u share
21:24:31 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> it's up to me to place my information in the public or not, and up to u to do what u want with urs
21:24:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> or how many times u ban me
21:24:38 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i still wont ban u, or silence u for the content of ur speech
21:24:43 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> or to retaliate.
21:24:45 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> wow still at it
21:24:51 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never have, despite hundreds of bootings/bannings
21:24:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lol zard
21:25:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> k well ur not the boss of what i do, hitch
21:25:08 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> if i hired a private detective and found found out ur addy and sexual peccadilloes and gawd knows what else, wud i then be justified in posting it far and wide?
21:25:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u can post w/e u want, yep
21:25:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idc
21:25:23 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> I drove across town, bought a pizza, and made a stop to buy pepsi, and the convo is still goin onm
21:25:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> make up all the lies u want
21:25:32 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u just SAID i wouldnt get in with a proxy ffs
21:25:36 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> make up ur mind dude
21:25:44 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> thats not me bossing anyone
21:25:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> thats me protecting free speech from constant assault
21:25:58 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> proxies can be blocked
21:26:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if i dont, there is no free speech for anyone
21:26:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> if ur controlling what someone else can and cannot do, how is that not 'bossing' lol?
21:26:04 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> jeez dude
21:26:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i have no choice
21:26:07 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> make sense ffs
21:26:11 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's not controlling u
21:26:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u can get in the room
21:26:19 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> other rooms allow proxies so apprently there is a chice
21:26:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i'm not touching u or ur pc in any way
21:26:35 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> other rooms allow spoofing so apprentky there is a choice
21:26:41 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if i restrict ways in which ppl can get electrons into my computer, that's my business
21:26:47 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i also block dos attacks
21:26:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> are they free speech?
21:26:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lol
21:26:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur argument is daft.
21:27:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i have no choice but to block proxies, coz if i dont, there is no free speech to preserve
21:27:17 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so basically i see a guy who thinks his opinion on WHERE# to draw the lines is superior to OTHER opinions. but maybe those other ppl think the same abbout their opinons
21:27:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i let it go on for months
21:27:42 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> yes, my line is superior, coz it has nothing to do with the content of someone's speech
21:27:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nothing to do with their opinions
21:27:49 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> seems kind of hypocritical and control freaky to me
21:27:56 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no matter how repugnant i may find the person
21:28:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> they still can speak in my room, on my bw
21:28:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well no one else agrees with u in there
21:28:22 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> this girl is a fucking pervert
21:28:23 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> wow
21:28:29 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> as long as they''re not on a proxy
21:28:32 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> or spamming
21:28:35 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz without it, there is no free speech in there
21:28:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and no one needs to proxy in, anyway
21:28:56 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so its moot.
21:29:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> anything else?
21:29:06 <<<<<<Stu-Pidaso>>>>>453> she is talking to me about an issue of a popcicle she is eating dripping on her
21:29:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> control freaky to me is banning and silencing ppl for their opinions/ideas/comments
21:29:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's u.



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21:29:30 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> the rest is just yakking knot. u'v said right in the open here that u block x y z. some others do too, some dont, and some block other things. but it's all blocking
21:29:43 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> it is restrictions on speech
21:29:46 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> period
21:29:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont ban anyone for the content of their speech
21:29:57 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> if i cant go in ur channel and spoof shy, my speech is restricted
21:29:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and the restrictions on the medium are not created by me
21:30:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u can use whatever nic u want, yes
21:30:14 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> regardless of WHy it's restricted, or whether that's a good idea or not, it IS a restriction
21:30:51 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i said "spoof" not "Clone" there is a difference no matter how incapable some ppl seem to be of seeing it
21:30:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well u have no "right" to spoof
21:31:05 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but hey, a restritction is a restriction
21:31:07 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u ppl n ur daft sense of entitlement
21:31:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lmao.
21:31:09 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and free is free
21:31:09 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no
21:31:13 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> it was never there to begin with
21:31:15 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and restricted isnt the same as free
21:31:18 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> derrrrr
21:31:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> its a privilege i dont allow
21:31:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> not a right
21:31:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u have no right to run user commands in my room
21:31:31 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so all this incessant yapping about 'free speech' is just so much hypcrisy
21:31:41 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that doesnt fall under the purview of free speech, no
21:31:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i do not have to allow all user commands to have free speech
21:32:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> or ppl would change the topic, the channelname, redirect, boot all, ban ppl, mute ppl, etc etc etc
21:32:16 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's y they're off
21:32:19 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> see, other ppl dont claim to offer completely unfettered speech. so it's no big deal when u find urself up against some restrictions in their channels. but ur sposed to be different, yet ur not
21:32:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and no one cares but u.
21:32:41 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i'v had far freeer speech in this channel than i ever cud in urs
21:32:44 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> my defintion of free speech = any opinioin u want to discuss
21:33:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> my defintion of free speech does not = user commands to control the server
21:33:19 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> yeah when u had the ability to ban anyone u want
21:33:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> free for u
21:33:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> but not everyone else.
21:33:32 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> cuz speech has purpose. to communicate. and i can communicate better in a place that kicks ppl who insult constantly and drag in personal bullshit than in a place that does not
21:33:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but hey, that's just MY p[reference. i wouldnt impose it on UR channel
21:33:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> the limitations on flooding in my room are also in this room
21:34:03 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well what ppl decide is an "insult" is variable
21:34:13 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> unlike u who harass any channel that refuses ur standards lol
21:34:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> fact is, ur insulted if u feel u are, and only then
21:34:38 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont "harass" anyone
21:34:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> indeed it is. that's why some hard and fast lines make sense (to me). like "dont tell us shit said in pm or personal shit that the person hasnt pasted themselves"
21:34:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i champion equality and free speech for all
21:35:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u harassed this channel incessantly for months
21:35:11 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i could say the same of u
21:35:15 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> oops, i mean "chamioned free speech" in this channel. my mistake
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21:35:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> banning ppl = harassment
21:35:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u did ur share of insults, too
21:35:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u fucking hypocrite
21:35:35 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yeah, cuz if u CALL it something diferent, that changes its nature right?
21:35:46 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> why should i agree with YOU what it is?
21:35:47 <Cato500> reHello room
21:35:51 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ppl who make faggy online threats oughtta get kicked, imo
21:35:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur the only one who is the arbiter of decency?
21:36:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u made physical threats to me
21:36:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so u should be kicked?
21:36:17 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> ppl who drag in others personal biz oughtta be banned. imo. and if they continue to do it then they oughtta be banned continually. imo
21:36:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> why didnt u boot urself that day?
21:36:34 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> see, u have differnt opinons, but no one goes to ur channel and tries to make u do it there way
21:36:41 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> well, what is "personal" business is variably defined
21:36:50 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Cato
21:36:55 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> yet u try to harass ppl who dont do it UR\ way. and u wonder why i call u a control freak
21:37:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ppl do go to my channel and try to make me do it their way, yes they do
21:37:08 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> a control freak, in the name of free speech. what a laugh
21:37:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ppl often have tried to get me to ban ppl that they dont like
21:37:18 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> good friends, even, have asked me to
21:37:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i've lost friends for not banning idiots.
21:37:49 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont control anyone, unlike u
21:37:56 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i protect free speech
21:38:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u ban n mute ppl all the time
21:38:03 Cato500 freedom of association is an important part of our rights just as is freedom of speech.
21:38:06 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> well, whatever knot. i ahve given u a pretty fair explanation of why i thing a) ur a hypocrite b) an online-0threat-making pussy c) a control freak, d) etc
21:38:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> always limiting others based on ur narrow defintion of decency
21:38:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i have no definition of decency
21:38:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz we are all different in what we feel it is
21:38:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so i dont enforce mine
21:38:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u've done nothing of the sort, hitch
21:39:00 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i've defended every point u attempted to make
21:39:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but i dont expect to have any impact on u, because u dont care whether ur right or wrong, u only care whether or not u appear to be. and if u dont, well, the crowd will change u can tell ur story to new ppl next year
21:39:16 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> TRYING to defend and defending are two different things lol
21:39:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idc whether i "appear" to b anything
21:39:32 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u have not explained away the incompatibility vetween 'restricted' and 'free' lol
21:39:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, i clearly defended every single point
21:39:39 <Cato500> civility, benevolenct indifference, and breath mints helps in any convo.
21:39:56 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u have not explained why U have a right to harass ppl who draw the line someone besides where do
21:40:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if the restrictions are only against things which will destroy free speech in this medium, then they arent restrictions at all, but insurance
21:40:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont agree i "harass"
21:40:22 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u have not explained why it is justified for u to continually paste what u beleive to be someone's personal info
21:40:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so i dont have to explain why i do it
21:40:31 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if i dont agree im doing it
21:40:32 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> are u daft?
21:40:38 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> try reading what i said the first time
21:40:43 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u ahve not explained how pasting someone's personal info answers a logical point
21:40:53 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i didnt paste any of ur personal info
21:40:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> only a link to some site.
21:41:03 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idk whose info it is, for real
21:41:09 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u'v done nothing really except lay out the sort of facile rationalisations i'd expect from any socisopath
21:41:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and all u got is empty arguments and insults
21:41:30 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> as usual.
21:41:40 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> it isnt wheter u know or not that matters, but whether u paste it or not, whether u respect other ppls' right to own their own lives and their own info
21:41:55 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont respect it.
21:41:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i said that
21:42:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i have no respect for u
21:42:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and i have no limitations on what is the content of what anyone posts
21:42:24 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u can post any info on me u want
21:42:25 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> idc
21:42:27 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> calling it empty doesnt make it so. u got cornered. ffs dude, if uc an call "restricted" synonymous with "unrestricted" ur definitely not winning an argument lol
21:42:29 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i said it at least 3 times
21:42:44 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> this is obvious even to a child
21:42:49 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> if the restrictions ensure free speech, then they arent restrictions
21:42:56 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> "restrcited" does not equal "unrestricted"
21:42:58 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> derrrr
21:43:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never said "unrestricted" tho
21:43:07 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and the rest is just lame attemtps at rationalisation
21:43:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> quote me where i did?
21:43:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> where did i ever say "unrestricted"?
21:43:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ur just using straw men.
21:43:30 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> no, u said "free". u think the dictionary will list "unrestricted" as a synonym for "free"?
21:43:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz udk how to argue effectively with someone of my caliber
21:43:48 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> it may be one of the synonyms, but not one i said.
21:43:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so dont quote it like i did
21:44:03 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> when u put shit in quotes, it should be when the person actually said it
21:44:04 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> ok?
21:44:05 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> does saying that explain away the difference between "restricted" and "unrestrcited">?
21:44:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> that's what quoting means
21:44:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never used those terms to describe my room
21:44:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u did.
21:44:34 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never once said its unrestricted
21:44:40 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> straw man.
21:44:45 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> anything else?
21:44:45 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> i wont bother cororecting ur english. that's just for children. but the quote marks are perfectly acceptable in the context
21:44:51 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> but why change the subject?
21:44:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> nope, they arent
21:45:02 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and u couldnt possibly correct my english, coz its better than urs
21:45:03 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> chikldren, like i said
21:45:11 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> more empty insults.
21:45:13 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> an avoidance of argument
21:45:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, i never used that word
21:45:27 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u acting like i did, is ur own avoidance
21:45:53 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u used "free". and like i said before, any dictionary will list them as synonymous. i switched to make the contradiction more obvious inc ase ur not quite seeing it
21:45:58 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u seem not to be
21:46:07 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> synonymous doesnt mean they are the exact same
21:46:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> only similar
21:46:20 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so u cannot interchange them, sorry
21:46:20 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so "reastricted" = "unrestrcited"?
21:46:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and "free" has a whole bunch of meanings
21:46:35 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> oh! so "unrestricted" is not synonymous with "free'?
21:46:42 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> is that ur positiion?
21:46:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> hmm?
21:46:54 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never said free speech lacked restriction
21:47:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> "u cannot interchage them"
21:47:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> in order for more than one person to have freedom to express their ideas, restrictions must be placed on how much each one can type
21:47:39 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> which is because of the medium itself, and ppl's ability to read
21:47:50 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so let me be clear here... a) "unrestricted" is not synonymous with "free" and b) "restricted" and "unrestricted" are the same. awesome!
21:47:59 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i never said either of those
21:48:03 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> where is this debating skill u keepbragging about?
21:48:08 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i dont use the words "unrestricted"
21:48:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> or other synonyms of free
21:48:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i use "free"
21:48:41 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> no, u said "u cant interchange them:" which is not the exact same words as "they're not synonymous" but is probly the same meaning to any onlooker
21:49:01 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and none of the bustling members of my room feel their free speech is limited in any way, by the flooding restriction, a restriction even u said u agree with
21:49:17 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> wrong, i said synonymous doesnt mean they are the exact same
21:49:21 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> and u never used the word "unrestricted" either. u used "free", but i think anyone (besides u when it's inconvenient) wud recognise then as synonymous
21:49:24 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> hence, not interchangeable in any aspect
21:49:35 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> so now "synonymous" doesnt mean "the same"?
21:49:40 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> wtf language is this ur speaking?
21:49:47 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> damn dud u talk urself in circles
21:49:57 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u can have free speech, with restrictions on flooding to ensure it, because of the limitations of the medium
21:50:00 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> where is the fucking much-lauded debate skill?
21:50:11 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> brb
21:50:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> becaus free speech = the ability to express ur opinions
21:50:16 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> everyone has that.
21:50:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so everyone has free speech
21:50:57 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> whatever. u'v been talking urself in circles for an hour. u have it all on log. u contradict urself from one monet to the next. u dont care about truth
21:50:59 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420> Politically speaking, everything thats going on appears totally horrible.
21:51:06 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> brb
21:51:13 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> able, allowed, at large, at liberty, casual, clear, disengaged, easy, escaped, familiar, fancy-free, footloose, forward, frank, free-spirited, free-wheeling, independent, informal, lax, liberal, liberated, loose, off the hook, on one's own, on the loose, open, permitted, relaxed, unattached, uncommitted, unconfined, unconstrained, unengaged, unfettered, unhampered, unimpeded, unobstructed, unregu
21:51:21 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> those are all "synonyms" for free
21:51:23 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> um, we're done knot
21:51:26 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> do they all mean the exact same thing?
21:51:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> no, they dont
21:51:47 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so no, because words are synonymous doesnt mean they all mean the exact same thing
21:52:00 GringoBR401_53243 has left
21:52:01 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> u can say i'm "running away" or "cant handle it" or declare a victory. but i'l bet ur glad we didnt have this convo in ur room where the sycophants cud see it lol
21:52:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> different synonyms may focus more on one singular aspect or connotation of a word
21:52:11 <ZaRdOz(<O>..<o>)420>[color=#FF0000] <O>
21:52:12 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> while ignoring others
21:52:20 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> synonymous doesnt mean same. yeah, gotcha
21:52:22 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> lololol
21:52:24 <.·:*¨`*§ãmT®âññy*¨`*:·.505> damn
21:52:34 <   Despicable  Eli   777>
21:52:36 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> oh i'd just as soon have this argument any old place
21:52:44 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> are those words all the exact same thing?
21:52:52 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> they are all listed as synonyms of free
21:52:59 <Cato500> there is the categorical difference between free as in permission, free as in gift, free as in with little or no restirctions, free as in little or no repurcussion, etc.
21:53:06 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> do they all mean the same thing, are they all interchangeable? no
21:53:10 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u lose, again
21:53:17 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> aye, cato
21:53:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> free is very loosely defined
21:53:28 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> many, many definitions
21:53:35 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> and hitcher wants it to just mean one thing
21:53:40 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> thats too bad for him
21:53:43 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> coz he is not Webster
21:53:57 Cato500 likes free as in freedom...
21:54:03    Despicable  Eli   777 makes a non free cup of tea and watches
21:54:05 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> i can employ any of the plethora of meanings of 'free' when i invoke free speech
21:54:14 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> not just the one hitcher wants to use.
21:54:15 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> lol
21:54:22 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> so yeah, run coward run!
21:54:33 <  Knot4Prophet  ™000> u's can have ur room back lol
21:54:39   Knot4Prophet  ™000 gets down from the pulpit




Notice too, that Hitcher called me a "fag" or "faggy" several tiimes through this corpus, yet he's the one obsessed with me, and, hypocritically enough, he's the one dressed up as a fucking female from WinMx, and perverting her nickname into "tranny" no less. <insert eye roll>

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